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Daniel Walker: I wanted people to see what I had seen, and to feel what I had felt, to be filled with the same kind of anger and hatred and holy hatred that I was feeling. Such that it would inspire them to do something about it. JC: Did you ever find yourself negotiating with people of faith, while undercover?

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Or find yourself talking to people of faith? DW: I came across men, the customers, who professed some kind of faith. The men who use women and children are everybody- your son and your father - including people of faith.

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In fact when I was in Atlanta, the Atlanta police told me that one of their largest spikes in demand for girls was during a Baptist convention…. Have you seen people go after customers? What does it look like? Is it possible? You arrest and charge the girls or the boys involved. With terrorism we go after the people—the suppliers—we follow the chain. DW: Yes. I know of cases where women and children have been trafficked to make porn. DW: Prison ministry. Prison fellowship. I mean, we used to say police work is tough love. And justice is the sharp end of the love continuum. Mercy is one end.

Justice is the other. They are committing a crime. JC: At the service, they talked about David and Saul -- their relationship…. What does that mean to you, now?

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This does not mean to visualize or imagine. Imagination is not faith. The two are not only different from, but stand in sharp opposition to, each other. Imagination projects unreal images out of the mind and seeks to attach reality to them. Faith creates nothing; it simply reckons upon that which is already there.

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God and the spiritual world are real. We can reckon upon them with as much assurance as we reckon upon the familiar world around us.

Spiritual [Pg 56] things are there or rather we should say here inviting our attention and challenging our trust. Our trouble is that we have established bad thought habits. We habitually think of the visible world as real and doubt the reality of any other. We do not deny the existence of the spiritual world but we doubt that it is real in the accepted meaning of the word.

The world of sense intrudes upon our attention day and night for the whole of our lifetime. It is clamorous, insistent and self-demonstrating. It does not appeal to our faith; it is here, assaulting our five senses, demanding to be accepted as real and final. But sin has so clouded the lenses of our hearts that we cannot see that other reality, the City of God, shining around us. The world of sense triumphs. The visible becomes the enemy of the invisible; the temporal, of the eternal. That is the curse inherited by every member of Adam's tragic race.

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At the root of the Christian life lies belief in the invisible. The object of the Christian's faith is unseen reality. Our uncorrected thinking, influenced by the blindness of our natural hearts and the intrusive ubiquity of visible things, tends to draw a contrast between the spiritual and the real; but actually no such contrast exists. The antithesis lies elsewhere: between the real and the imaginary, between the spiritual and the mate [Pg 57] rial, between the temporal and the eternal; but between the spiritual and the real, never.

The spiritual is real.

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If we would rise into that region of light and power plainly beckoning us through the Scriptures of truth we must break the evil habit of ignoring the spiritual. We must shift our interest from the seen to the unseen. For the great unseen Reality is God. From there we can rise to unlimited heights. If we truly want to follow God we must seek to be other-worldly.

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This I say knowing well that that word has been used with scorn by the sons of this world and applied to the Christian as a badge of reproach. So be it. Every man must choose his world. If we who follow Christ, with all the facts before us and knowing what we are about, deliberately choose the Kingdom of God as our sphere of interest I see no reason why anyone should object. If we lose by it, the loss is our own; if we gain, we rob no one by so doing. The "other world," which is the object of this world's disdain and the subject of the drunkard's mocking song, is our carefully chosen goal and the object of our holiest longing.

It is not future, but present. It parallels our familiar physical world, and the doors between the two worlds are open. May we not safely conclude that, as the realities of Mount Sinai were apprehended by the senses, so the realities of Mount Zion are to be grasped by the soul? And this not by any trick of the imagination, but in downright actuality.

The soul has eyes with which to see and ears with which to hear. Feeble they may be from long disuse, but by the life-giving touch of Christ alive now and capable of sharpest sight and most sensitive hearing. As we begin to focus upon God the things of the spirit will take shape before our inner eyes. Obedience to the word of Christ will bring an inward revelation [Pg 59] of the Godhead John It will give acute perception enabling us to see God even as is promised to the pure in heart. A new God consciousness will seize upon us and we shall begin to taste and hear and inwardly feel the God who is our life and our all.

There will be seen the constant shining of the light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world. More and more, as our faculties grow sharper and more sure, God will become to us the great All, and His Presence the glory and wonder of our lives. O God, quicken to life every power within me, that I may lay hold on eternal things. Open my eyes that I may see; give me acute spiritual perception; enable me to taste Thee and know that Thou art good.

Make heaven more real to me than any earthly thing has ever been. Whither shall I go from thy spirit?